Tuesday, October 11, 2005

Ed Kostiuk - Who is He, Really?

I stumbled onto the "I just got back from a FEMA Detainment Camp" thread via a link on a blog (I forget which blog, I was "channel-flipping" so to speak), and from that thread (I read the first few pages), I saw the link to this thread.

I read Ed Kostiuk's opening post, and then I read on.

When I read WO's comment, I decided to do some Googling.

WO's comment here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread169641/pg1#pid1700085

After a bit of Googling, I saw a link that struck me as very interesting. The snippet of text included on the Google list showed 27 years in the Marines and a military intel background. Not exactly the stuff I'd expect from having read Ed's post here, which was a gosh-durn, down-home, jes'-folks, Okie from Muskogee
type "heartland" dude who was just tryin' ta help his neighbors.

Unfortunately, when I clicked on the link, what I saw bore no relation to what the Google abstract displayed!

Even more unfortunately, there was no "Cache" link on the Google index!

I then tried web.archive.org, but no joy -- the page wasn't archived.

After a bit more Googling, I found another entry to that URL that did have a Cache link.

Here's the current page, sanitized as of Sept. 10, 2005:

http://pathfindersar.org/Ed%20Kostiuk.htm

And, here's the Google Cache copy, last modified on Jan. 23, 2005:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:RTA4F5QPnSQJ:pathfindersar.org/Ed%2520Kostiuk.htm+%22Ed+Kostiuk%22+Intelligence&hl=en

Please read it while you can, because the next time Google's spider walks that part of the web, it'll flush the old cached contents and replace it with the current version.

What you'll see when you view that cached version of his bio, is the bio of a heavy hitter -- a guy who's been involved in everything from military intelligence specializing in NBC, combat all over the world, to a tour in the middle east as a UN Peacekeeper, to quelling the Rodney King riots (as part of the military "Surveillance, Reconnaissance, Intelligence Group"), to earthquake disaster recovery all over the world, to heading up the Columbia (STS-107) Shuttle Recovery Operations for FEMA, etc., etc., etc.

He's also taught "terrorism studies" at the Naval Warfare Post Graduate School, and undisclosed other "college level" venues.

The above is not in strict chronological order -- and, it barely scratches the surface.

And... it's been "sanitized" on Saturday, Sept. 10th.

So, what is it that I find troubling?

I find it troubling that a bona fide world class heavy hitter would waltz in and present a personna of a good ol' boy of the Okie variety, just tryin' ta he'p folks.

In short, the personna he presents strikes me as a "cut-out" personna.

No, I don't really think there are any "false humility" issues at play. The hasty bio edit on the 10th seems to mitigate against that explanation, in my opinion.

Of course, I also find it very troubling that he's shuck-and-jived his way around the few KEY questions that have been repeatedly posed.

So, I am of the opinion that he's a genuine pro, here "on a mission" -- a mission of spin control.

There's most of my two cents. I'll hit the send button on this while I consider putting into words the rest of my thoughs on this matter.

Some additional thoughts

I am not real thrilled with things like the suspension of the Second Amendment in the NO LA area. Try as I may, I just can't see any Consitutional mechanism (i.e., actual Martial Law invocation) for what they're doing.

No, I'm not a Constitutional attorney. But, I'm not an idiot, either. And I've got a pretty decent nose for BS.

I do tend to agree with those who've characterized this as an exercise, a prototype, something that'll give us an idea of what to expect when/if there are widespread disasters in the future (such as terrorist hits, war, major earthquakes, etc.)

With that in mind, I think we're likely to see a variety of MOs being tried out for size. Maybe in the wilds of Oklahoma they'll billet people in a Baptist campground. (From the time I spent in a SBC campground in another midwestern state, it seems like they've picked a pretty swank place, as SBC campgrounds go.)

And, maybe in another location, they'll try putting people into an out of the way "officially" shut-down military base. One that's maybe ONLY accessible via air.

In another location, maybe they'll try selecting an out of the way town, and informing" the residents that they WILL be housing "guest" families -- in their own homes!

During each of these trial runs, there'll be reams of notetaking, chin-scratching, and "lessons learned".

For the military, the Gulf Disaster is in a way the best thing they could ever have hoped for. It makes the "TOPOFF" exercises look like sad jokes. They will be able to study the dickens out of this disaster -- and, if my hunch is correct, they'll be doing more than a little bit of "active" studying, as I mused above.

I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I do like to think of myself as a bit of a pragmatist, with a bit of a faulty denial mechanism.

With that in mind, I've for some time had the idea that if we ever do experience a real "TSHTF" situation in this country, the way the government would deal with it would be to basically cordon off the affected city(ies), and wait for the smoke to stop rising. Then, they'd send in the cleanup crews, and "renovate",
sans "useless eaters".

When I watched Shep Smith literally freaking out as he screamed about the starving people in the stadium, and the ONE road out of the city being blocked, I said to myself, "Um hum... yup, sounds about right."

Earlier today, I heard news reports that they actually SHOT "over the heads" of anyone who even approached the roadblock.

A real Catch-22 they created down NO LA way. They decided to starve the refugees out, to get them moving (shades of Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and...)

-- but, they ALSO decided to block their way, and lock them inside that pressure cooker!

Talk about "damned if you do/damned if you don't"!

But, what that "Catch-22" DID accomplish was to accelerate the "experiment" that I suspect was being conducted. Want to see how a certain "compound" will react after a certain amount of time -- but, you want the results without waiting?

Then "apply heat".

Here's another thing that bugs me:

We were told that they were parceling the refugees out in lots of ten thousand per state.

Then, the feds started declaring each recipient state a "disaster area", supposedly to facilitate "services" and so forth.

But now I'm hearing that the numbers, at least in some states, aren't anything NEAR ten thousand. In fact, they're not even anything near ONE thousand!

But yet, the "disaster area" declarations remain in effect!

So I wonder, what are the implications for these states -- the ones declared disaster areas? Are these states subject to martial law, and/or other "things" of that sort?

Then there's the VERY strange "mode of transportation".

They put people on airplanes, but, they would NOT tell them where they were going until the planes had taken off!

Wow!

Can you picture this scene? You're about to get on a plane -- the rest of your exended family are about to get on two or three other planes.

You want to stay in touch with them - but HOW would that even be possible? You can't tell THEM where YOU'RE going, and THEY can't tell YOU where THEY'RE going!

What are you going to do to keep in touch with your family and your friends who are being put on disparate "high-tech forced-marches"?

Advantage State -- IF the goal is an "experiment" to "maintain large scale population/crowd control."

No need to worry about "trouble", if the "troublemakers" haven't the foggiest idea of where they are, or where anyone ELSE is!

Sort of a "kinder, gentler" series of cattlecar trains departing for regions unknown?

I dunno. I'm open to alternate explanations, so long as they're rational.

"It can't happen here" is not "rational" in my book.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread169641/pg6

The trend I see occuring here is this:

1.) Some have questioned the accuracy or validity of Val's article content. It's not bogus. It's a first hand account of the Falls Creek Camp, with pictures. I believe it more than the spin job that was created to respond to it.

2.) Some seem more than willing to just accept whatever good ole Ed responds with because he seems like a likeable guy and a government employee. I find the ease with which some people do this to be alittle disturbing.

Surely our government wouldn't lie to us, would it? Ed hasn't answered Val's questions or mine so I'm holding out for answers and will never just accept what I'm told without question, especially if it's the government giving the answers.

Part of putting someone's life back together after such a disaster as New Orleans is in helping them find jobs, housing, and get kids in schools. That is happening here in Atlanta without "isolation camps", so someone needs to explain why the
residents of the Falls Creek camp need to be isolated when others from the same disaster do not, why they need military protection when others do not, and all the other questions Val and I posed need to be answered as well.

What is different about the Falls Creek camp residents that is so different from other New Orleans evacuees that requires them to be handled so differently? What is REALLY going on at Falls Creek Camp?

Meanwhile, I'm about to take the six bags of clothing I've had in the back of my car for a week now, that was refused by OEMA a week ago when I was at a facility that Ed has confirmed had staff to receive and sort clothing, down to my church to put on a trailer. Because while FEMA/OEMA was worrying about whether U.S. citizens were competent enough to bring CLEAN clothes, our
church was trying to find a community that needed help. They found one...in Mississippi, where the lady at the facility we are taking a trailer full of supplies to states "they can't keep clothing and supplies on the shelf".

So while FEMA has this gargantuan machine churning through more than a 1/2 billion dollars a day, goods FEMA refused to take into their system and get to the people who need them are going to be transported by a 300 member church hundreds of miles away to a place that FEMA is not keeping supplied.

So once again here we go defying self-deployment. It's going to be a lot harder for Ed et. al. to speak against us on this bein's the community in Mississippi has said "thank you thank you! we need it so badly!"

There's nothing wrong here, right?

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2.) Some seem more than willing to just accept whatever good ole Ed responds with because he seems like a likeable guy and a government employee. I find the ease with which some people do this to be alittle disturbing.

Did you look at "good ole Ed's" bio page?

Specifically, the CACHED version, prior to it being sanitized on the tenth?

Did you ask him WHY he decided to dust his tracks by sanitizing his bio page?

Did you ask him WHY a world class "spook" would want to come across like an "aw, shucks" kinda "good o' boy"?

I'd REALLY like to hear his answers to THOSE questions...

(...as well as the OTHERS he specializes in ducking, reframing, diverting, etc.)

Most of all, I'd like to see an investigative journalist, maybe someone from WND, take a look at this deal, and start shining the light on it.

IF that were to occur, then it'd be game-over for any "virtual cockroaches" trying to outrun the light. There'd be a natural progression, e.g., WND on one day, FreeRepublic on the second day (people posting the WND article), FreeRepublic AGAIN on the THIRD day (spindoc shills swooping in, trying to do a tag-team
diversionary attack on the story), and finally, Fox News and/or WashTimes or some other slightly centerish mainstream media would pick up the story.

At THAT point, the story would have legs, and it would NOT go away, unless something even bigger happened to knock it off the airwaves. Think: do you hear all that much about Aruba lately? (Not that I'm complaining about *that*!)

That was kind of the progression that got "Able Danger" to attain "escape velocity" (although since the hurricane, it's anyone's guess as to where it, and any OTHER non-hurricane story will end up). That's one *really* scary thing about mega-news events -- they provide airtight cover for "stuff" to go on, that
would OTHERWISE be subject to public scrutiny.

I shudder to think of the legislation that's going to be QUIETLY inked into law while the country is fixated on the hurricane aftermath. As I can see from some of the other posts, Ed is not a new member. He told us who he was and was not being overt about it at all.

Ed joined this site on Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005

?!homework Muaddib homework?!

little voice keeps saying, "Elvis . . . I mean Ed . . . has left the building."

On another note . . .

On the surface he may seem to come across as just a guy who's trying to help sort things out and clear the proverbial air, so to speak.

Now . . . scratch that surface . . . no wait . . . start digging and you find a much different picture.

quote:

Ed joined this site on Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005
That would be [firing up four-banger desktop calculator, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching...] exactly ONE DAY after he sanitized his on-line bio!
12-9-2005 at 07:19 AM

PS: for the various "media entities" I listed in my theoretical progression into the mainstream (e.g., WND, FR, FOX, etc.), feel free to substitute any other likely suspects. I just fished those out of the nether at semi-random, but there are plenty of other "stepping-stones" available to get this story into the MAINstream (where Joe Sixpack and his kinfolk can get confronted with it in a form they will accept as valid).

I don't know that it's gonna happen. But I sure HOPE it does!

Yes, I did view the Cached page on Ed's background and I also saved it for future reference, since it is likely to disappear soon. This is exactly why I'm disturbed that some are far too willing to accept Ed's explanation of Falls Creek.

As you pointed out, why would such a heavy hitter as Ed respond to a post on a conspiracy theory website? The government usually discounts such sites as being populated by a bunch of paranoid nerds. Val's article struck a nerve with someone somewhere. I recommend someone forward Val's article to the media and let's see who responds to that. Ed or someone above him.

You bring up some important points Shuffleon. The one that interests me most is, why was Ed's bio sanitized?

While doing a search on Ed, I found something interesting:

"Saturday, August 27, 2005
[CrisisAlert] Hurricane Katrina

President Bush has declared LA a state of emergency

Ed Kostiuk, EMT-W sent from my Blackberry Wireless Handheld"

I cannot verify the validity of this info but This appears to be a text message or e-mail sent from Ed's Blackberry Wireless Handheld. The link I found this at is here- Sent from Ed's Wireless Blackberry

If Ed did in fact send this text message or e-mail as it appears and LA was declared a state of emergency by Bush on 8/27/05, why did it take four days for FEMA to act in the wake of the disaster? Why did it take another week before they deployed the 1,200 trailers set aside at Fort Gillam for this kind of
emergency? If this is to be believed, then the President himself AND Ed knew there was a state of emergency in LA before "Black Monday" (8/29/05), and FEMA and Homeland Security should have hit the ground running with disaster relief on Monday, not talk about it then do something four days later.

Meanwhile Back at ATS people are starting to see the part i said.

"Not everything is what it seems."

That is why I dont understand as this being a Conspircy Ste, you guys just take this guys word for what it was. In reality this guy lead you on a bunch of bs, and you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

Next time we get someone on here like this, can we at least figure out why he is here.

More than likey we all know why he is here, to give is MIS infomation.

you have me intrigued...

It bugs me that he changed his bio like that.

I did more digging and found another reference that he was a Federal Marshall as well.
(http://www.warriorssociety.org/Newsletters/2001_Winter/Page_4.html )

So now he have:

Marine
Intelligence Officer for the Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Welfare Unit.
Several command positions at the Surveillance, Reconnaissance, Intelligence Group (SRIG)
Command position Emergency Operations Center

Instructor Terrorism Studies, Naval Warfare Post Graduate School in Monterey, California

Federal Marshal
Safety Officer with Task Force One
Field Operations Officer (FOO) for FEMA
Emergency Management Specialist for the Oklahoma State Department of Health’s Bioterrorism Division

I also came across the site http://all-hands.net/

You have to register (which I did not do) but the interesting thing is that it lets you search on his name.

Aside from returning his posts for the last three years, it also identified "uploads".

One of them was a January 5, 2005, document concerning

quote:
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN McALESTER ARMY AMMUNITION PLANT (MCAAP), McALESTER, OK; AND PITTSBURG COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT (PCHD), McALESTER, OK

SUBJECT: Chemical, Biological, Radioactive, Nuclear, and Explosive (CBRNE) Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) Mass Casualty (MASCAL), and/or Quarantinable Event (QE) Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between MCAAP and PCHD.

I have to admit....the quarantine angle of this story is starting to look more real.

The other thing I have to agree with is why a person with this background (and NOT at a very junior level) would respond to Val's thread??? This doesn't make sense and violates everything OPSEC is about. He would have that notion drilled into head. Very strange....

Refugee Destinations
happened to read the first post on this thread right when it was posted. My original post is the seventh one down on the fist page of this thread.

I have been tracking Vallhal's original post's propogation into the blogoshphere since yesterday. Googling the phrase "just got back from FEMA detention" now gets almost 500 relevant hits including The Daily Kos. Perhaps this might make it's way into the mainstream media.

1 Comments:

Blogger Log Dog 5 said...

While I realize this is a very late response to your post of 2005, I believe your suspicions regarding Ed are with merit. I would seriously doubt any of his claims to include his claim he won a Bronze Star in the first Gulf War. I do know he was a Marine SNCO, he claimed to work as Federal Marshal and was an Anaheim Police Officer, which was a blatant lie. He also claimed to have married a local woman, but was found that this too was a lie, even though he had her attend a marriage ceremony in a attempt to convince her the marriage was in fact bon a fide. My personal belief is that Ed Kostiuk is not the man he claims to be and is so insecure he feels the need to fabricate his resume in order to be worthy of a friendship.

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